Arjan van de Ven wrote: > I suspect you will always be able to boot faster than you can > hibernate+resume. Hard to argue with that. But if hibernate is the less common thing, and 90% of time suspend works, it's a win. And lets not forget that hibernate gets you back where you left, where shutdown/boot-up doesn't. I know suspend-to-both doesn't work and is not expected to work soon. But just making suspend work reliably gets us mostly there. My laptop suspends and resumes in about 5 seconds each way. And fails perhaps once every 30 suspends. Has done wonders. I can't imagine having to shutdown all the time. behdad -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list