On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 16:03 -0500, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > Les Mikesell wrote: > > (b) making sleep/hibernate reliable is what laptop users > > need instead of booting all the time anyway because it is much faster if > > you can simply close the lid and open it later with all your apps > > working as you left them. > > This is actually the strongest argument against spending a lot of resources on > going sub 20 seconds. If Vista-style suspend-to-both works reliably, there is > no reason to turn a machine off at all. > > That said, doesn't mean we shouldn't clean up cruft. Indeed. There are still plenty of reasons why reboots happen, so speeding up boot is worthwhile. > Hans de Goede wrote: > > > 2) Load some services after gdm is up, for example cron, anacron, at, > > setroubleshootd > > Please, no setroubleshootd by default. What's the point? Read section "The > rest" in my blog post: Dan is working on making setroubleshoot suck less -- the idea of notifying you of problems even if the only thing you can do is report them isn't bad. The implementation is less than ideal :) > Horst H. von Brand wrote: > >> how about not running a full MTA on a laptop/client install... at all? > > > > That works if you have reliable, continuous access to the 'net. Not my > > case, sorry. > > Don't you have to configure the MTA if you want to use it? I mean, when a > normal user configures Thunderbird/Evo/... it puts the SMTP address that their > mail provider gave them (smtp.gmail.com, etc), NOT localhost. If you are an > advanced-enough user to set it to localhost and configure your MTA to point it > to your remote SMTP server, sure you don't mind a "yum install sendmail" > first, do you? Yeah, I think that this is probably the right path although it definitely is going to be a noisy path. FWIW, even mutt users don't need sendmail anymore -- see 'set smtp_url'. Jeremy -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
