On Mon, 2004-08-23 at 05:56, Nigel Metheringham wrote: > On Mon, 2004-08-23 at 12:48, Alan Cox wrote: > > The problem with that view (which indeed was certainly my view and I fixed > > some drivers) is that from "up" it can take 60 seconds to get gigabit > > negotiation completed. In addition it really mucks up power management > > code in all the drivers. > > I have a set of IBM servers with E1000 type ethernet NICs onboard which > are incapable of DHCP because they take longer to negotiate onto the > network than the DHCP timeouts. More amusingly, if coupled with cisco > switches they can badly negotiate to a state where ping and packet > turn-round time is of the order of 10 seconds. Where the hell it stores > the data I have no idea... It isn't just NIC to switch negotiation. What I've seen in many many environments is the spanning tree protocol is-there-a-layer-2-loop detection taking longer than the DHCP client will wait. I wager that spanning tree is the bigger problem vs ethernet negotiation. Dax Kelson Guru Labs