On Mon, 2004-08-23 at 15:30, Colin Walters wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-08-23 at 07:48 -0400, Alan Cox wrote:
> > On Sun, Aug 22, 2004 at 10:02:54PM -0400, Peter Arremann wrote:
> > > We've had the same issue with a couple of via-rhine and realtec 8139
> > > cards... The problem seems to be that the driver does not allow you to
> > > read certain things like mac address unless the interface is actually up.
> >
> > We've been kicking around the idea that this should in fact become
> > mandatory.
> >
> > > know if that fixes your issue. Last time I brought this up on this list, I was
> > > told that it wasn't a kudzu issue but that the driver needs fixing.
> >
> > The problem with that view (which indeed was certainly my view and I fixed
> > some drivers) is that from "up" it can take 60 seconds to get gigabit
> > negotiation completed.
>
> This definitely sucks from a UI point of view. We will need to provide
> progress feedback to the user somehow. Probably autodetect "is this
> gigabit", and if so, NetworkManager could pop up a dialog perhaps with a
> cancel button. If you hit cancel it would fall back to wireless.
It would be really great if GE-hardware could just start in FE-mode
which is quick enough and negotiate GE in the background, starting
slower and increasing speed if possible. Unfortunately that train has
departed already...
Nils
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