Adam Williamson <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: ... > Do GNOME users actually use Contacts and Calendar and Photos? I mean, > I'm kind of a GNOME ultra, and I don't. ... One of the reasons we need metrics is so we can answer these questions using actual data, and I'll be much more comfortable making these kinds of decisions once we have that. That said, my own personal sense is that Calendar is used to some extent, and Contacts and Photos are used much less. That is somewhat reflected in the app reviews: Firefox - 7236 reviews, 3.4 average rating gedit - 896 reviews, 4.0 average rating Calendar - 321 reviews, 3.0 average rating Photos - 128 reviews, 2.3 average rating Contacts - 84 reviews, 3.2 average rating The challenge we face is that, if we only included really high quality apps with high levels of usage, we'd be left with very few apps remaining! You could make an argument for removing Photos, Contacts, Calendar, Cheese, Maps, Weather, Rhythmbox... and if we went down that road, aside from leaving the desktop looking fairly empty, we'd also potentially fall short in terms of user expectations. While people might not always use these apps, there is something of an expectation that they will be there, and indeed competing desktops do still include equivalents. I'm also conscious of users who prefer not to use web services from Google and Microsoft, as well as users who don't have continuous access to high bandwidth internet connections. That all said, my personal view is that we should drop Photos. Contacts and Calendar I'm less sure about, because there is a more active upstream in both cases. I'd also like to see us slim down and/or refresh our preinstalled apps, in order to reduce the maintenance and testing burden. We have designs in place for this in a number of cases - the image viewer, photos, videos, the camera - I'd be really happy to see progress there. Allan _______________________________________________ desktop mailing list -- desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to desktop-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
