See below for the minutes from yesterday's Fedora Workstation Working Group call. Allan -- Fedora Workstation Working Group: Meeting Minutes Attendance - Present: Allan, Chris, Jens, Matthias, Neal (arrived late) - Regrets: Christian, Langdon, Kalev, Owen - Missing: Michael Agenda F32 planning (#115) - Allan: is the WG the right place to do feature planning? Matthias: we can potentially get assistance from the desktop team if we identify priorities. - Chris: would like to see us close down issues that are in progress. - #116 - Broadcom wireless - it's relatively self-contained. - #101 - Impossible to see disk usage - perhaps a limited fix for this one. Outstanding disk partitioning questions are relevant here (#54 and #82): - Chris is reluctant to make big changes around disk partitioning, from a QA perspective - Matthias: isn't sure what the options are - might be hard to move away from LVM - Allan: it would be good to focus on the disk partitioning and encryption questions for F32, since these are somewhat foundational questions which impact other areas. When we do this, it would be good to get consensus over key questions (LVM or no LVM) and a sense of the direction of travel. - Matthias: with systemd-homed coming up and promising real change, making short-term changes might not be worthwhile. - Allan: seems like we have two potential themes coming out - one is trying to smooth out the more obvious pain points, the other is trying to resolve more wider architectural decisions. - Matthias: what is happening outside the workstation for F32? - Memory monitoring was happening - #98 - Chris: is low-memory monitor ready for F32? Matthias: the plumbing is getting into place for F32 (in glib and portals). - There would need to be an effort to get apps and to adopt the low memory monitor. - This could be a useful initiative for the WG to track and push for F32. - Christian Hergert has been doing some interesting work that we could draw on for this, too. - Neal raises the question of F31 being perceived to be slower than F30. General discussion about performance but no concrete takeaways. - Neal raises #117 - drop optical media criterion - General view in the discussion is that Fedora should distribute USB sticks rather than optical disks (for marketing) - Concern that the desktop experience isn't good on a DVD - Sounds like the WG should come back to this, with more data about the various hardware and use-cases, in order to state a position on the issue - WG stewardship of the F32 release - Testing and test days - it would be good to revisit the schedule and see if there's anything the WG can do to improve things or engage more - Release notes and marketing that we can push - It's fine to talk about what's included from GNOME. But what else? - The features we've talked about are potentially release notes worthy - we ought to have a list of target features that the WG can deliver for F32. - Another thing to do for F32: review the apps that are included for the release. Some of them might not be up to scratch. Our apps should work, serve a purpose, look good. We should schedule an app review as part of the release process, maybe just after beta. We should put this on our own calendar. Next meeting will be 6 January 2020. _______________________________________________ desktop mailing list -- desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to desktop-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx