OK on Rawhide, it's quite a bit smaller percentage wise, but still in the 3-5MiB ballpark guesstimate for ISO increase. Installing: mediawriter x86_64 4.1.4-3.fc31 rawhide 2.1 M Installing dependencies: qt5-qtquickcontrols x86_64 5.12.4-2.fc31 rawhide 1.0 M Transaction Summary ============================================================================================================================================================== Install 2 Packages Total download size: 3.1 M Installed size: 11 M Booting the Live Workstation image for Rawhide, I start out with $ df -h ... /dev/mapper/live-rw 6.4G 5.6G 828M 88% / ... After dnf installing mediawriter $ df -h ... /dev/mapper/live-rw 6.4G 5.7G 670M 90% / ... Launch mediawriter, click on Fedora Workstation 30, click create live usb, and yeah it fails with an out of space message. Graceful failure. (The ext4 file system supports file deletion but the backing device-mapper based snapshot does not free used extents, and when that fills up, it blows up - the LiveOS becomes unusuable.) But I can only delete the ISO so many times before the dm backing snapshot runs out of space, which isn't actually freed when deleting files, and eventually it will blow up. And as the application basic functionality requirement is in the post-install section, in retrospect it sounds like Fedora Media Writer being effectively non-functional while LiveOS booted, would not be a release blocking bug. Anyway, I'm on the fence. Not much is saved by putting it on the ISO when it can't practically be used from the ISO. Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ desktop mailing list -- desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to desktop-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx