On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 7:25 AM Pat Kelly <pmkellly@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > A suggestion for your consideration: In one of the QA meetings a while back we talked about how it would be nice if Fedora Media Writer was part of the initial installation. We use Media Writer a lot during testing and it would be handy if it was there ready to use instead of having to install it. Installing: mediawriter x86_64 4.1.4-1.fc30 updates 3.6 M Installing dependencies: qt5-qtquickcontrols x86_64 5.12.4-1.fc30 updates 1.0 M Total download size: 4.6 M Installed size: 12 M Download size, if those are xz compressed RPMs, probably approximates the increase in ISO size for the Live Workstation image. I've never tested booting a Fedora LiveOS image from a USB stick, and then trying to create an image with mediawriter while live booted, if it's able to figure out what to do: i.e. the proper image to write by default is at /dev/sr0. Otherwise media-writer must download an image, and right now the lives are short on space for this purpose. Even this 1GiB bump isn't enough to make it possible to download any of the ISOs while booted live. https://pagure.io/fedora-kickstarts/pull-request/556 So the use case necessarily would have to assume an installed Fedora, not a live boot. And pretty much right after an installed system starts up and the user logs in, they're going to get a healthy pile of dnf and packagekit metadata downloaded. It doesn't seem like much of an advantage to have it already present, whereas on lives, of course to dnf install you have to download 50MIB's worth of metadata to find and to any package installation. In fact, I rather expect if media-writer is already on the media, the lack of space to download an ISO, which right now causes the overlay to blow up spectacularly if the free space is busted, would invariably be a release blocking bug. -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ desktop mailing list -- desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to desktop-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx