Re: Default plymouth theme

[Naheem Zaffar <naheemzaffar@xxxxxxxxx>]

Do we have a single page anywhere that discusses the boot/restart/updates experience listing what Fedora wants and what any issues are?

While Grub/Plymouth and the Gnome login screen can be themed with similar designs to show seemless transitions, using a black/no background in grub and plymouth also does this.

The boot process needs to be fast, but as the same process is used for updates, it does not necessarily mean that it will be fast.

With the current plymouth theme, the issues I see are as follows:

1. For a majority of the sequence, the Fedora logo is not present. There is an outline that is filling in. Whichever side of the branding wars you stand on this is sub optimal

2. The changes in animation are jarring. It is not smooth.

3. When there is no change in the animation there is no feedback that something is happening.

4. A filling logo does not really give adequate feedback on the boot process as it may stop for a longer period at some point (not sure if this one still happens).

Without going into a branding war, the simple issues can probably be addressed by creating a new plymouth plugin - with a dark background and with an element that animates without breaks or suggestion of "how long" it is left for the boot process to complete.

On 1 February 2018 at 18:47, Chris Murphy <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 2:00 PM, Stephen Gallagher <sgallagh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I was reading Fedora Magazine today and there was a really interesting
> article up about setting the theme for plymouth[1].
>
> It led me to wonder: why is "Charge" the default theme for Fedora
> Workstation instead of something with stronger branding like "Spinfinity"?

I changed to this on my laptop as a result of the same article. I like
Spinfinity better, I think it better reflects that I'm running Fedora.
In some sense it's not even comparable to Charge which doesn't even
use the word Fedora, rather only very briefly at the tail end does the
Fedora logo appear. Changing to Spinfinity seems like a really minimal
effort and uncontroversial change to get a lot of bang in branding.

One odd "problem" though is that getting this theme seems rather
non-deterministic. Sometimes it appears. Sometimes it doesn't. I have
no idea why. I know it's baked into the initramfs, but I'm always
picking the same boot entry in GRUB with the same boot params. I'm
gonna guess it's some kind of race, due in part to boot times being so
short on this laptop, plymouth starts at 1.4s into boot.

--
Chris Murphy

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