El mié, 08-03-2017 a las 09:24 -0800, Jason Brooks escribió: > On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 7:21 AM, Owen Taylor <otaylor@xxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > I had a long discussion yesterday with Colin about some of the pain > > points that are causing him to currently have a separate atomic- > > workstation build on the Centos infrastructure, and what we can do > > to > > address those and consolidate back to the Fedora infrastructure. > > > > The long term goal we have is getting to the point where someone > > who is > > moderately adventuresome can consume Fedora Atomic Workstation in a > > rolling fashion - every week a new version of Atomic Workstation > > shows > > up with whatever minor or major updates are considered stable, and > > if > > something breaks, rpm-ostree offers the ability to roll back. > > > > For Atomic Host, they offer this experience based on the *last* > > stable > > release of Fedora - so when a new release of OpenShift or atomic- > > cli > > happens, they rebase it in f25, and then the f25-based Atomic Host > > image is updated. This provides something much more stable than > > basing > > their releases on Rawhide, because only a fraction of the packages > > get > > updated . > > > > But we can't literally follow this model for workstation, because > > we > > can't make that conceptual separation between the stable base and > > the > > stuff that is updated - kernel, systemd, NetworkManager, gnome- > > shell > > all have roughly the same status. The best separation we have for > > Workstation is operating system vs. apps, and Flatpak is the route > > forward to allow people to try out new apps on a stale base. > > Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but Fedora Atomic only ships > stable Fedora packages. If we want an updated version of atomic or > kubernetes (we don't ship openshift in the image) we give it karma > through bodhi, and it becomes stable, and we pull it in. I'm running > this Fedora Atomic WS (https://pagure.io/atomic-ws) now on my main > machine, and it, like the host, draws on stable fedora 25. I'm not > totally against the idea of running a rawhide-based version, but... I > prefer the idea of running an atomic workstation based on the latest > stable fedora. Would the rawhide-based atomic workstation be the only > option? Not sure what that pagure project is jowever its not anything that is part of anything official. Dennis
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