Re: Atomic Workstation next steps

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El mié, 08-03-2017 a las 09:24 -0800, Jason Brooks escribió:
> On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 7:21 AM, Owen Taylor <otaylor@xxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > I had a long discussion yesterday with Colin about some of the pain
> > points that are causing him to currently have a separate atomic-
> > workstation build on the Centos infrastructure, and what we can do
> > to
> > address those and consolidate back to the Fedora infrastructure.
> > 
> > The long term goal we have is getting to the point where someone
> > who is
> > moderately adventuresome can consume Fedora Atomic Workstation in a
> > rolling fashion - every week a new version of Atomic Workstation
> > shows
> > up with whatever minor or major updates are considered stable, and
> > if
> > something breaks, rpm-ostree offers the ability to roll back.
> > 
> > For Atomic Host, they offer this experience based on the *last*
> > stable
> > release of Fedora - so when a new release of OpenShift or atomic-
> > cli
> > happens, they rebase it in f25, and then the f25-based Atomic Host
> > image is updated. This provides something much more stable than
> > basing
> > their releases on Rawhide, because only a fraction of the packages
> > get
> > updated .
> > 
> > But we can't literally follow this model for workstation, because
> > we
> > can't make that conceptual separation between the stable base and
> > the
> > stuff that is updated - kernel, systemd, NetworkManager, gnome-
> > shell
> > all have roughly the same status. The best separation we have for
> > Workstation is operating system vs. apps, and Flatpak is the route
> > forward to allow people to try out new apps on a stale base.
> 
> Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but Fedora Atomic only ships
> stable Fedora packages. If we want an updated version of atomic or
> kubernetes (we don't ship openshift in the image) we give it karma
> through bodhi, and it becomes stable, and we pull it in. I'm running
> this Fedora Atomic WS (https://pagure.io/atomic-ws) now on my main
> machine, and it, like the host, draws on stable fedora 25. I'm not
> totally against the idea of running a rawhide-based version, but... I
> prefer the idea of running an atomic workstation based on the latest
> stable fedora. Would the rawhide-based atomic workstation be the only
> option?

Not sure what that pagure project is jowever its not anything that is
part of anything official.

Dennis

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