Re: Atomic Workstation next steps

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On Tue, 2017-03-07 at 08:30 -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
> El vie, 03-03-2017 a las 11:30 -0500, Matthew Miller escribió:
> > On Fri, Mar 03, 2017 at 10:21:56AM -0500, Owen Taylor wrote:
> > >  * Run the entire Fedora Rawhide compose process out of a cron
> > > job,
> > > like the Fedora Atomic Host compose. This would likely require us
> > > to
> > > remove Rawhide from the mirrored set, but mirroring Rawhide
> > > doesn't
> > > seem important - it is presumably a tiny portion of overall
> > > Fedora
> > > bandwidth usage.
> > 
> > I agree that separating Rawhide out of the main mirror channel
> > would
> > be
> > relatively low-impact; it's a tiny fraction of the connections
> > every
> > day. We might want to offer a nightly snapshot on an optional
> > mirror
> > channel or something like this.
> 
> Atomic host in rawhide is not done as a separate compose its all part
> of the one rawhide compose. 

I move have misunderstood. So there is no Atomic Host ostree creation
that happens more than once a day?

> > > Goal 7 (future)
> > > ===============
> > > Have a "rolling stable" stream of Fedora that gets major updates
> > > not on
> > > a six-month-tempo, but after those changes have seen testing in
> > > Rawhide. We already treat the kernel like this.
> > 
> > This overlaps a lot with work Adam and Dennis have been doing (see
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoMoreAlpha for part but not
> > all). Have you talked with them?
> > 
> 
> Honestly the best thing you can do to get it working, stable and
> better right now is to have people be engaged, paying attention,
> testing and fixing issues, the workstation ostree pieces have been
> failing to compose for months, as its non blocking Releng does not
> look at it at all as we have too many other things going on. You and
> your team have to get engaged and work on it if you want it to change
> and be something going forward

Asking people to fix one thing a day then recontext-switch into the
task the next day is incredibly discouraging to getting things working.
So, for now, let's concentrate on goal one: how do we get a workstation
ostree built more than once a day? What needs to happen to enable that?

- Owen
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