On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 4:02 PM, Liam <liam.bulkley@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > First, suspending on Linux isn't reliable and hardware dependent. I'm only > replying to this thread because I've had a long-standing issue with my > current laptop (here's the bug reported by Florian: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1329047). OK? > Second, are three power off options too many? It's not as though average > users aren't well aware of all these options. In my opinion, yes it's too many for the average user if we're sampling a global audience. The options should be sleep and poweroff. When sleep initiates first generation a hibernation file and then actually do suspend to RAM. If sufficient battery remains, resume happens from RAM and if not from the hibernation file. Oops, except we can't resume from the hibernation file due to misconfiguration by default. > In general, I'd love to see data supporting people's preference for either: > 1) not being able to choose and having an unpredictable resume experience, > or 2) exposing the three options so they can determine what trade-off they > are willing to make given their usage. I disagree. The user is at least as unreliable as any party in the discussion except when it comes to their consternation at data loss as a result of being tricked into hibernating when the system is configured out of the box to never ever recover properly from hibernation. It's silly. The OS is obligated to try to resume the hibernation file, or to not provide options to ever create a hibernation file in the first place and instead produce whatever sensible warnings come with an impending poweroff. -- Chris Murphy -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
