On 1/7/2016 12:06 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Nikos Roussos
<comzeradd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Is it just me, or does it seem odd to take Mozilla to task for
doing something with their (relatively much larger) ecosystem we
also endeavor to do with Fedora's?
Could you explain what you mean?
Mozilla provides an API to sign extensions outside from their infrastructure. It's our infrastructural decision (correctly in my opinion) that prohibits this type of implementation.
Why is it OK for Fedora infrastructure to sign the bootloader, the
kernel, and kernel modules, but not application extensions?
"Just my two cents. Firefox cannot, and I repeat, cannot be dropped. I
am not trying to tell anyone what to do, but if firefox is dropped,
fedora will no longer be fully accessible to the visually impaired out
of the box. Firefox is our only viable web browser at the moment. There
are others, but they each have their own accessibility issues that keep
them from being completely usable. Epiphany, aka web, has serious webkit
gtk issues joanmeri diggs has filed, but as far as I know have not been
fixed upstream. I could be wrong about this. This keeps some webpages
from loading at all in epiphany, while others have controls, edit
fields, check boxes, etc that orca cannot see. Chromium is utterly
inaccessible. This is largely because google in it's wisdom does not
interface with atk and at-spi, instead preferring you to download a 3rd
party extension, known as chromevox, to use the browser, with their
possibly non open source speech voices. There are command line switches
you can use to make it use speech-dispatcher, but the support is limited
and not really maintained, plus google complains when this is done. To
be fair, google does not even make chromium/chrome usable on windows, so
at least they're consistent. There's midori, which is what xfce uses I
believe, but it has the same issues as epiphany. Once the webkitgtk
issues are fixed, these browsers, as well as yelp, will be a lot more
accessible with orca.
Sorry for my tone, I kind of came into this a bit late.
Just my two scents
Kendell clark"
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