Re: Case against Firefox in FESCo

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On 01/07/2016 01:10 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote:
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>> Let's take another example: iOS and Android. iOS is allows only
>> signed software to be run on it. All software run locally on this
>> operating system must be acquired only from the iTunes store.
> 
> No, you can sideload apps with iOS devices, probably even using
> Linux and the imobiledevice utilities, and certainly with XCode on
> OSX.
> 

No, you cannot do this without rooting the phone. Even with XCode on
OSX, you are required to have a developer account with Apple and then
to test they actually require you to submit your binary to them and
then they give you a special version of your binary tied to a specific
device. It's horrible.


>> Android operates similarly by default, allowing only
>> carrier-installed software and content from the Google Play
>> store, but it also offers an option in the settings to allow
>> users to install packages from elsewhere as well.
>> 
>> Mozilla in this metaphor is striving to become iOS
> 
> Best get the metaphor technically correct then ;)
> 

Well, my point was mainly that on Android it's possible to install
add-on software from anywhere by flipping a switch in settings. With
Apple, it's only possible to install add-on software through their
walled garden or by breaking the OS entirely. Mozilla's new signature
approach is far closer to the latter (and it doesn't need to be!).

Honestly, I'd have far fewer issues with this if it was possible for
the system administrator to add a new CA certificate that's trusted to
sign extensions. That would solve the Fedora problem as well as for
end-users.


>> : you can only install Mozilla-approved software. In order to
>> retain control of your own choices, you must switch browsers
>> (either to Icecat or similar or else to the nightly developer
>> edition).
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