On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Michael Catanzaro <mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > From the latest revision of our PRD [1]: > > "Fedora Workstation follows the GNOME Human Interface Guidelines. These > guidelines are mandatory for applications installed by default." > > Currently we have applications that clearly do not follow these > guidelines. Unless we plan to revisit this section of the PRD, we > should remove them, or set a deadline for them to be improved. Do you have a deadline in mind? It would be massively helpful to know if you are discussing the items below for the F23 or F24 timeframe. > * Devassistant. Needs an app menu, plus a serious sit-down with the > GNOME designers. We want to make it easy to develop apps for Fedora, > but not at the cost of leaving a bad quality impression. > > * Evolution: Needs a major redesign that is not going to happen. Geary > is not yet a suitable replacement. Options: (1) Not install any email > client, because most users will use webmail; we can feature Evolution > in GNOME Software. (2) If we want to keep Evolution installed by > default, it's time to require the maintainers to add an app menu. > > * Firefox. I see two options here: (1) replace it with Epiphany (FWIW, > I think Epiphany has matured enough recently for this to be reasonable, > but I am biased ;) (2) enable the GNOME extensions, mandate that they > be updated in tandem with updates to Firefox in Fedora, and patch in an > application menu. The extensions are good, and Mozilla is a reasonable > upstream we can work with to get permission for this. The status quo > should not be an option. > > * setroubleshoot. This app is completely hopeless. SELinux issues are > sufficiently rare nowadays that we simply do not need this anymore, > although it would be ideal for ABRT to detect the issues and handle bug > reports. > > * Shotwell. Eventually we can replace it with GNOME Photos, but in the > meantime, users can just install a photo management app if they want > one. Also, I suspect Shotwell sends your password to Facebook without > verifying its TLS certificate.... > > * Transmission. Its only significant legal use is to download our > competitor's products (Linux ISOs), hardly something we need to > encourage. It's featured in GNOME Software already. > > Thoughts? > > Michael > > [1] > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/desktop/2015-June/012419.html > -- > desktop mailing list > desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop