>From the latest revision of our PRD [1]: "Fedora Workstation follows the GNOME Human Interface Guidelines. These guidelines are mandatory for applications installed by default." Currently we have applications that clearly do not follow these guidelines. Unless we plan to revisit this section of the PRD, we should remove them, or set a deadline for them to be improved. * Devassistant. Needs an app menu, plus a serious sit-down with the GNOME designers. We want to make it easy to develop apps for Fedora, but not at the cost of leaving a bad quality impression. * Evolution: Needs a major redesign that is not going to happen. Geary is not yet a suitable replacement. Options: (1) Not install any email client, because most users will use webmail; we can feature Evolution in GNOME Software. (2) If we want to keep Evolution installed by default, it's time to require the maintainers to add an app menu. * Firefox. I see two options here: (1) replace it with Epiphany (FWIW, I think Epiphany has matured enough recently for this to be reasonable, but I am biased ;) (2) enable the GNOME extensions, mandate that they be updated in tandem with updates to Firefox in Fedora, and patch in an application menu. The extensions are good, and Mozilla is a reasonable upstream we can work with to get permission for this. The status quo should not be an option. * setroubleshoot. This app is completely hopeless. SELinux issues are sufficiently rare nowadays that we simply do not need this anymore, although it would be ideal for ABRT to detect the issues and handle bug reports. * Shotwell. Eventually we can replace it with GNOME Photos, but in the meantime, users can just install a photo management app if they want one. Also, I suspect Shotwell sends your password to Facebook without verifying its TLS certificate.... * Transmission. Its only significant legal use is to download our competitor's products (Linux ISOs), hardly something we need to encourage. It's featured in GNOME Software already. Thoughts? Michael [1] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/desktop/2015-June/012419.html -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop