On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 8:10 PM, Stephen Gallagher <sgallagh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, 2015-08-19 at 15:03 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 08:43:44PM +0200, drago01 wrote: >> > On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 8:36 PM, Christian Schaller < >> > cschalle@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > > Well there seems to be more laptops/desktops still in use on >> > > i686, >> > > and it is not a lot of engineering overhead. Is there a request >> > > from >> > > release engineering to be allowed to drop i686 media? (I would >> > > assume the >> > > gains are relatively small since we would need to keep i686 >> > > packages around for >> > > some time regardless of having install media.) >> > >> > Its the kernel team that said that i686 bugs are low priority for >> > them. >> >> That was definitely a big motivator, yes. But in addition the >> statistics Matthew Miller showed at Flock clearly indicate the trend >> is against i686 for some time now. In fact, there's a good argument >> to be made that we haven't added any significant number of those >> systems in some time (years), and it's a zombie population at this >> point (q.v. <http://jwboyer.livejournal.com/49909.html>). >> >> The overall WG response I recall is to the effect of, "If an i686 >> media/tree is not going to be well supported, we don't want it in the >> edition we ship." >> >> I don't think it's extra rel-eng work to ship. It's not clear >> whether >> it costs QA any time, but if it doesn't I guess I'd wonder where the >> actual testing is happening. :-) (This is not in any way a dig at >> QA.) >> So for me, if we can't say with certainty an i686 installation is an >> equivalent experience to x86_64, with the same support, we shouldn't >> ship it. >> > > QA does indeed have to test i686, so it would be a significant > reduction in effort for them at release validation time to drop i686. I'm sure QA is more than capable of speaking for themselves :) -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop