On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 08:43:44PM +0200, drago01 wrote: > On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 8:36 PM, Christian Schaller <cschalle@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Well there seems to be more laptops/desktops still in use on i686, > > and it is not a lot of engineering overhead. Is there a request from > > release engineering to be allowed to drop i686 media? (I would assume the > > gains are relatively small since we would need to keep i686 packages around for > > some time regardless of having install media.) > > Its the kernel team that said that i686 bugs are low priority for them. That was definitely a big motivator, yes. But in addition the statistics Matthew Miller showed at Flock clearly indicate the trend is against i686 for some time now. In fact, there's a good argument to be made that we haven't added any significant number of those systems in some time (years), and it's a zombie population at this point (q.v. <http://jwboyer.livejournal.com/49909.html>). The overall WG response I recall is to the effect of, "If an i686 media/tree is not going to be well supported, we don't want it in the edition we ship." I don't think it's extra rel-eng work to ship. It's not clear whether it costs QA any time, but if it doesn't I guess I'd wonder where the actual testing is happening. :-) (This is not in any way a dig at QA.) So for me, if we can't say with certainty an i686 installation is an equivalent experience to x86_64, with the same support, we shouldn't ship it. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop