On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 12:31:15PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 09:44:48AM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > I think we should take a look at other changes that are in the queue > > for F23 with an eye towards unexpected surprises like that. > > In the last two releases, watching changes and the communications > around them, I think we often have this kind of failure of > expectations. We (Fedora in general) need to continue to work on that. > Often, change-filers expect that by having their change accepted, it's > now on everyone else. And conversely, often other groups feel like > the change owners should have covered everything. That ends up being > more adversarial than it should be. > > I think it's good to think of the filed Changes as a communications > vehicles but not the complete communication itself. The change owners > *should* be more active about starting discussions with affected > groups, but aren't always experts on what those effects might actually > be, so it's important for others to do exactly as you say — make sure > to keep an eye on changes as they're filed. > > I think this is a good general responsibility for the WG FESCo liasons — > watch the changes as they come in and make sure the rest of the WG is > aware. Of course, that doesn't mean that others can't watch too. Yes. I had told Matthew I would mention this change to the WG yesterday but since I was in non-stop meetings 9am-6:30pm, I didn't get to it. Looks like it wasn't a blocker since people found the Change, and AIUI Allan is talking with the devs to see what can be done to make this Change workable across Fedora including Workstation. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop
