----- Original Message ----- > From: "drago01" <drago01@xxxxxxxxx> > To: "Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop" <desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 3:23:01 PM > Subject: Re: Why people are not switching to Fedora > > On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 4:48 PM, Michael Catanzaro <mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > On Mon, 2015-05-11 at 09:32 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > >> I'm not sure if you meant to include the nVidia driver as one of the > >> "technical issues", but it seems to be implied. While that might be > >> the greatest driver in the world, there really isn't much we can do > >> about it breaking from a technical perspective. It's proprietary, so > >> we can't fix it to build against the latest kernel we're going to > >> ship > >> and we rely on nVidia to play catch up. > > > > I think we need to discuss locking the kernel to a single major > > version for the lifetime of each Fedora Workstation release. > > Otherwise, we're probably going to have to give up on nVidia users. > > Can you recall the last time where we shipped a kernel before nvidia > supported it? > We don't really wait for them but they don't take that long to catch up ... > > You are suggesting a solution for a problem that doesn't really exists > much in practice. > -- I am wondering if we are maybe making this issue harder to solve than it is. I haven't used the NVidia binary drivers in a few years, but back when I did it wasn't that much of a pain. I used one of the 3rd party rpms with the driver in it and while it was usually a little bit of time between a new Fedora kernel and the NVidia driver getting rebuilt, it was never a real issue. I just kept booting with the old kernel until the driver got updated. So to me the only thing that would be needed to make this a bit smoother is maybe some way for Grub or similar to be aware of your situation and unless there are major security issues maybe suggest you keep booting with the old kernel for a bit? (maybe easier said than done?). But the assumption that as soon as a new Fedora kernel is out you HAVE to start using it seems to be creating problems for ourselves that doesn't need to be the case? Christian -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop
