On Fri, 2015-04-24 at 18:55 +0200, Jiri Eischmann wrote: > > It pretty much comes down to a question if we want to build a well > integrated multi-protocol client (continuing with Empathy/Pidgin, or > starting GNOME Chat) or if we should give it up and embrace all those > popular, unfortunately mostly closed services (Skype, Messenger, > Hangouts, Telegram...) and make them as integrated in the desktop as > possible. The latter would probably clash a bit with one of our 4 > foundation - freedom. I have no idea what we would do to make Skype "integrate better." If the Skype developers want it to not look like Windows 95, that's on them. Hangouts: we can kind of support with a web app, but Google+ is broken in WebKitGTK+ 2.8, so... that would need to be fixed. It's a regression from 2.6, but not really possible to bisect due to long build times and GTK port build breaks. Facebook XMPP is being dropped next week. We actually have top-class Facebook support right now, but it's about to disappear. Bye Facebook. We could provide the web app in Software, though. That's just a matter of writing an appdata file. GNOME Chat is the way forward, but with zero developers it isn't going anywhere. Even with a huge team, it will obviously never be able to support Skype, Hangouts, or Facebook. Pessimism aside: Telegram looks interesting. I didn't realize it was so popular, or that the protocol was open, or that they have a GPLv3+ client for Linux. This, we should investigate further. Michael -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop