-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 hi I've just updated f22. I don't see the item in the control+alt+tab popup for status icons, but I'll keep looking. This system is pretty much vanilla fedora with the exception of pidgin, so I'll run that, which does have a status icon that lives in gnome shell's message tray. I do have two suggestions that I hope can make it into 3.16, and a couple more that probably won't. First suggestion. When you click the updates button in gnome software, the "check for updates" button is not focusable by orca. You cannot navigate to it by pressing tab. You have to use orca's flat review to click on it to activate it. A nemonic of alt+c would make sense. When restarting to install updates, would it be possible to start gdm in a minimal state, just enough to allow orca to turn on and announce "installing updates" downloading updates, etc? At the moment all I see while updates are downloaded and installed is the fedora logo. Now comes my suggestions that won't make it into 3.16 unless I am very lucky. I'd like to suggest that status icons be moved to the top bar, possibly before or after the "settings" menu with system hardware, wifi, bluetooth, power, etc, so everything is in one place. I'd also like to suggest a "software" item be permanently attached to the top bar if gnome software is installed, so that the user can check for update manually, configure when updates are checked for, etc. I don't think it's possible to configure gnome software much at the moment, it checks when it's told to. The gnome guys have done a fantastic job with accessibility. I wasn't sure about this new notifications system but it's accessible and very handy. Congratulations on a job very very well done! I'll file that vte bug so it can get fixed, as well as bugs against gnome-control-center if there are any unlabeled buttons or duplicates Thanks for reading Kendell clark Sent from Fedora GNU/Linux kendell clark wrote: > hi Sweet, I'll update my test system running f22 and try this. I'll > write back in with feedback Thanks Kendell clark Sent from Fedora > GNU/Linux > > > Florian Müllner wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 9:59 PM kendell clark >> <coffeekingms@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>> But how do I get to applications that formally resided in the >>> message tray without resorting to the mouse? Could a keyboard >>> shortcut be added in 3.16 that would jump to that area? > > >> It has already been added to the ctrl-alt-tab popup, so it is >> possible to navigate to the area using the keyboard. >> Unfortunately the icons themselves are notoriously bad with >> regard to accessibility though ... > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVC0RUAAoJEGYgJ5/kqBTdKG0P/0WbXiWfD/ZotdoTaBKxjIDR 3zGWEuJvMeHLosDuP4LyMzU1QT/ljwOzqrlNvswz8s+Nlsg8iLUhyekeLeUSb7Qr O96TSDLfEP/M/embUZkwxEnRbzHZQ2oAK1EQsNs5YPkIJCRltNFhN96O1tqbxRd/ XavPh3UIJhnmtNWcIsNL4WiY0hzsrQln2g34nbd/Guby97nbQBGvifXqW3LRIX/g 3xvNQZJtJ9ZYaQqnwEZY3TPi5pvCStsE73UrhGMZujzH0y8ONAnYA6+55qOTJtm+ 4RGklX7vH52KIdGgMK8T8EMSbxeiuYeTWz76nHhcaF64w2dpMmz56xOjk8XA9XYh 5ecqgQP+kDh9a1ZZCJMCkjwhDRHkGPSR42R2ByX058lrpWBfYDnTE6Jh0kdDhoAC v/229eIxpb0tZExittA5+ZY1TieVj87Qh7h95iixL/B5VFao6wc/YWTwTD4UEoGE t3dhVE278hQa6yMzd6KJy6DkSeIXW7xOK3/gRDmQEPxlL/0Nt5sXVuK9urnhcd6K xpML2Zauw6Htavx7lrd2BpZFdjiqwgDaRmyL9wsTFpu8NRWjYrCp4XB1wBdxrh9i SBPLJ89pyMriAvsrDK60jNB4cBbVrvaSpH9K5YEvg0o2kSbCWA1v0zfyfSRbSCfy 2aM4aOm/t9L1YWd6Y7AJ =kD8g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop