-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 hi You know, that's a fantastic idea. For the most part though, accessibility just works. There are exceptions, but as long as you follow the gtk standards, like providing labels for custom widgets, making sure your button is really set as a button in gtk and doesn't just draw an image of a button on screen or similar, orca and similar just work. Gnome does have issues with unlabeled controls, mostly buttons, and duplicate controlls where orca will read a control twice, and it's usually the second instance of that control that's actually sensitive and actionable. But it definitely cannot hurt to have an accessibility rating for applications. There remain some serious issues in some toolkits, such as wxgtk. List boxes in linux are not presentable by orca. This is probably either a toolkit error or an orca one that can be solved. Qt works for the most part. I would like eventually, but am not holding my breath, for applications being run using wine to be usable by orca. This would require some kind of windows accessibility to linux accessibility translator or mapper. LIke I said, I want only to be equal among sighted people. I don't want special treatment. If you're designing a product or software, just consider accessibility. It isn't magic or a hard thing to do, it's just something that';s often not done by hardware and software manufacturers. That said, linux is much much better at this than windows, who leaves the blind people to their own devices when installing stuff. There are actually driver install programs that are inaccessible, so you can't even read the thing that installs your hardware drivers. Linux's device model is different, and superior imo and doesn't require this Thanks for reading Kendell clark Sent from Fedora GNU/Linux Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 07:44:42PM -0500, kendell clark wrote: >> So many desktops I cannot use. Kde, xfce, lxde, lxqt, cinnamon. >> So many applications I cannot use. Chrome/chromium, applications >> written for x, rather than using a gui toolkit like gtk or qt, >> applications that use something other than gtk or qt for their >> toolkit. > Hi, > > if gnome almost works for you, for some definition of almost, then > I think you should direct your efforts at improving gnome. As the > default desktop in Fedora Workstation it has the highest exposure, > and is most likely to reach the "critical mass" of > accessibility-requiring-users. > > gnome-software is slowly discouraging people from installing > packages using old toolkits. This already aligns with your needs. > Applications are scored on a number of features, like large icons, > proper descriptive text, etc. Accessibility support was not on that > list to the best of my memory. Maybe you could work with Richard > Huges — the author of gnome—software — to add bonus points to > applications which score well in this regard. > > Zbyszek > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVCezPAAoJEGYgJ5/kqBTd0TcP/0hijuS3Vlg1gtOExJN0MsRb 4EZ0V8S2ajoLcc2Bod4VXaaWDxnNmUeAmi+MyPb8/9YK2VU/4DPa/MsMj5PJaThf yoZvElaoNeDKqb69BG+vSJy2kMw2DEiJXSqwFu0JRSBAcVc7tzG4bEwh9MQdCCJr o6dmHIeGRWiMcx+Y0L5jlLucBgb3DEXSyuxbcEUOpKzm4SqPPfJnGcPpQ/O4eohX /ziCtu75Q/PGJcvoVwAThaJ3LJz3AtM32cfFzzwMuxs6dzdsJJSrXuZbAoQxceIR Wz6Z6p9JnkxB7Y/zt2CJMeobg8pZmriKcgqdhzVA5RO0LiQlrW2qTS9WI14deMwU nTDcJ19XN+qL4TLFXmbZo7zvn53/+522T0R+cAV5VwwNpBANhEny7qClEb2zcyrW A6AFoFM6qIIPsDaJ8eqM8htPhKr35BQa6sPtq+jBrKUtunadVK7VSkGR577wZvq8 1qQnX6LBtzj9odca4LxL2w4VZm2ZNGyYXrTKO1C/YhGshzjrDo+A6Wr5fpoZ15M/ XgPxCeYiL0/yKy0CFfbH3NJxhKGJogrw7lwvUE2U1ydw/5VAgKbb3Q+ThYkhkZY0 eHOwkUADd/5naKinlsCZSmpiFmzVRCBR9y7qgkmSXtogqn1JVGce0KZLwu5EVrTy YKMaAB+tcrmWVtXtg8Z5 =wPle -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop
