On Sep 16, 2014, at 3:47 AM, drago01 <drago01@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Elad Alfassa <elad@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:40 PM, Evandro Giovanini <efgiovanini@xxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >>> >>> A few things worth considering: >>> >>> - Java is quite popular among the Workstation target audience (between web >>> and mobile development), so installing it by default may not be such a bad >>> idea. >>> >>> - Without Libreoffice there's no support for .doc or even RTF documents in >>> the default install. This is something all operating systems currently >>> support (Windows, OS X and all major Linux distributions). While I'm in >>> favor of offering a lean selection of apps now that Software is a great and >>> usable tool, I believe that an OS should support viewing all common MIME >>> types out of the box. >>> >>> -- >>> Evandr >>> >> >> >> Having a Java runtime environment doesn't help you with mobile development, >> you'd have to install Eclipse as well - and that pull in Java anyway. I also >> don't think a technology being "popular" is a good reason to include it by >> default, otherwise we'd include ruby on rails, django, docker, and PHP by >> default. >> >> AFAIK, Microsoft Windows does not come with a .doc viewer by default. > > It does. Its called "WordPad". On OS X it's TextEdit which reads Word doc/docx/xml, .rtf, and .odf. There's intrinsic value having at least a viewer for common formats. If LibreOffice gets us that capability, keep it installed by default. Chris Murphy -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop