On Aug 19, 2014, at 2:41 AM, Christian Schaller <cschalle@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > While we can make our Mac hardware story better, we need to keep in mind that > Apple is a pretty hostile company here in terms of running alternative operating > systems. There is absolutely no information from them on their hardware, so we are > often left with having to reverse engineer to fix bugs, which is slow and time consuming. > > My goal here instead is for us to work with more friendly hardware makers to ensure that > their hardware work well, so that we can provide Fedora users with a recommendation, > i.e. if you want things to work perfectly out of the box get a laptop from vendor X of > series Y. > > This doesn't mean we shouldn't try to work as well as we can with as much hardware as possible, > but realistically we are not in a position to guarantee more than a select set of series. It's reasonable for Fedora development, and users, to narrow the scope for supported hardware. Users don't want to buy or travel with a 2nd laptop just to run Fedora. This is why I suggested the particular alternatives I suggested. At least, Virtual Box should be an explicitly targeted and supported platform to run Fedora on (as a guest). Despite its drawbacks, it must be easier to target than hundreds of models, let alone highly closed and quirky hardware like Macs. Chris Murphy -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop