----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Catanzaro" <mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx> > To: "Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop" <desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 3:09:27 PM > Subject: Re: Developer focus for Fedora workstation > > On Thu, 2014-08-14 at 23:37 -0400, Adam Batkin wrote: > > * The default theme uses a lot of extra empty space around UI > > controls > > and also as part of window titlebars. Sure, it's pretty, but you lose > > a > > TON of useful space. Open something like Eclipse on a Mac and compare > > with Gnome and see how much extra "stuff" you can see on the Mac > > (hint: > > Apple has found a way to make the UI both pretty AND functional even > > on > > screens with limited vertical pixels). > > This is a valid point. Adwaita only works well on high-resolution > monitors. KDE is able to fit way more functionality into the same amount > of space, while still looking good. I don't think this is true. My laptop doesn't have a high-resolution monitor and Adwaita works well. That said with the move to Headerbars there amount of wasted space should become tiny: http://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2014/01/13/client-side-decorations-continued/ > > Oh, and when I tried another > > theme that had less blank space around Window titlebars, it turned > out > > that some windows use some new Gnome API which draws the titlebars > > differently, so those windows still look like they are using Adwaita > > Sounds like a theme that was never updated for GTK+ 3.10, or not updated > properly. Header bars can be themed. The only challenge is that your WM > theme must match your GTK+ theme, otherwise they will look out of place > next to the WM's decorations used by other apps. -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop