On Aug 18, 2014, at 1:50 PM, Michael Catanzaro <mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, 2014-08-18 at 22:20 +0300, Elad Alfassa wrote: >> Hi, >> >> quick question I'd like to see some discussion about: Anaconda allows >> setting a password to the root user, or to create a normal user during >> the installation. >> >> >> I think that we should hide the option to create a normal user (for >> the workstation image only), since we already do this in >> gnome-initial-setup where it makes more sense. >> >> >> What do you think? > > Yes, initial user creation should belong to gnome-initial-setup. (For > the Workstation image only.) > > I'm not even certain that we want to allow setting a root password in > the installer. (For the Workstation image only.) Having an extra > password to remember is half as user-friendly, gnome-initial-setup will > put the first user into wheel anyway, and gnome-control-center will > never allow deletion of the last user in wheel. It's been optional for a > couple releases now (you can just skip that spoke in anaconda and your > system will work fine :), and Ubuntu has been doing it this way since > about 2008 or so with no problems. To confirm the proposed behavior for Workstation: - root user exists but is given some unknown passphrase, e.g. from /dev/random - installer doesn't prompt for either root or user creation/password setting - gnome-initial-setup causes first user to be created, group wheel, therefore sudo works - user has the option to "sudo passwd root" To me this seems appropriate as long as kickstart installs can still somehow specify a passphrase for root (or probably more safely, to specify the hash to store); or other best practice to setup a Workstation for remote admin, maybe user "radmin". Chris Murphy -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop