> On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:04 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 06:38 -0500, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: >> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> On 02/27/2014 11:32 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: >>>> at yesterday's FESCo meeting, it was agreed on setting deadlines >>>> for Change submission for Fedora 21 [1] and to process PRDs into >>>> Change proposals. >>> >>> It can be hard to come up with Change proposals without knowing the F21 >>> schedule and how much time we have for implementing them. Is there any >>> chance FESCo could come up with a tentative schedule first? >>> >>> For example, if F21 is going to be released in August, we'd propose >>> GNOME 3.12 as a Change, but if it's going to be released in October / >>> November, it would likely be GNOME 3.14 instead. >> >> One possibility - and I'd say preferred - is to mention both options >> in the Change proposal, with both versions schedules. Based on that, >> the decision could be, that we would wait for 3.14, if Workstation >> WG would say it's preferred option, or some development has to happen >> upstream first for Fedora 21/Next. >> >> Tentative schedule is - GA no earlier than in August. Realistic, expect >> October. I understand it's hard to plan for both sides - FESCo and >> developers. But expect the timeframe of August to October. In case the >> scope of the release would be bigger, we can slip more. I'd just like >> to avoid changing the GA date once a week without a real data. I'm >> going to upload draft schedule how F21 would look like for different >> release dates. >> >> Btw. Change proposal is not something set in stone, but it should >> be living document (of course in cooperation with FESCo). > > Just as a personal opinion, it makes all kinds of sense to me to just > sync F21 release with GNOME 3.14. I can't really see how releasing a > month before it comes out is a good idea at all. We don't have some kind > of urgent imperative to get F21 out as fast as possible. We have all > kinds of other changes planned for it; more time is only going to help > them get done better. Why not just say "OK, we'll ship F21 with GNOME > 3.14 and schedule it no earlier than needed for that"? I've been saying this to anyone who will listen. So +1. > -- > Adam Williamson > Fedora QA Community Monkey > IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net > http://www.happyassassin.net > > -- > desktop mailing list > desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop