----- Original Message ----- > On 02/27/2014 11:32 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > at yesterday's FESCo meeting, it was agreed on setting deadlines > > for Change submission for Fedora 21 [1] and to process PRDs into > > Change proposals. > > It can be hard to come up with Change proposals without knowing the F21 > schedule and how much time we have for implementing them. Is there any > chance FESCo could come up with a tentative schedule first? > > For example, if F21 is going to be released in August, we'd propose > GNOME 3.12 as a Change, but if it's going to be released in October / > November, it would likely be GNOME 3.14 instead. One possibility - and I'd say preferred - is to mention both options in the Change proposal, with both versions schedules. Based on that, the decision could be, that we would wait for 3.14, if Workstation WG would say it's preferred option, or some development has to happen upstream first for Fedora 21/Next. Tentative schedule is - GA no earlier than in August. Realistic, expect October. I understand it's hard to plan for both sides - FESCo and developers. But expect the timeframe of August to October. In case the scope of the release would be bigger, we can slip more. I'd just like to avoid changing the GA date once a week without a real data. I'm going to upload draft schedule how F21 would look like for different release dates. Btw. Change proposal is not something set in stone, but it should be living document (of course in cooperation with FESCo). Jaroslav > -- > Kalev > -- > desktop mailing list > desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop