----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Murphy" <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 10:17:27 PM > Subject: Tech Spec, System Installer > > Re: Fedora Workstation Technical Specification, System Installer > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation/Technical_Specification#System_Installer > > The first sentence defines a preference for a minimalist installer user > experience, with a hard requirement for dual-boot preserve existing OS > (Windows and OS X). > > The second sentence uses "classes of hardware that are expected in > workstation-class machines" which includes multiple devices (two SSDs, two > HDDs, one of each). > > Could the WG clarify the scope of these statements? > > Taking them very literally, I could propose: > > 1. Remove Manual/Custom partitioning path entirely. The Tech Spec doesn't > specifically say only the default path should become minimalist. It is still early days for the tech spec so I think we all want to flesh out things a lot more and figure out the details, so any help with that is appreciated. I don't think removing the manual partitioning is part of anyones plan, although maybe streamlining it a bit would be good, haven't looked at it in a while, but I am sure the partitioning tool exposes a lot of stuff currently that you are quite unlikely to want to do on a normal desktop/laptop. I got a laptop at home I need to reinstall, so I will investigate and take notes this weekend. > 2. Remove all partition scheme options from the Automatic/Guided path. Two > options isn't the minimum possible, no option is. I think the idea behind part 2 is to say that we don't need to offer features in the desktop installer for setting up enterprise style storage systems or hardware. The words minimum possible isn't meant to be literal, just an aspiration to make it as simple as possible within the constraints of reason. > The existing Automatic/Guided path permits multiple device selection, and > makes an assumption how to use them. [1] Keeping with the minimalist > preference, this could still mean no Manual/Custom partitioning: by > continuing to make current or revised assumptions, [2] with or without > informing the user; or conditionally present a simple UI that enables the > user to assist in resolving the ambiguity with a few options: raid0, raid1, > and one cache option once one is considered stable. (i.e. not raid4, raid5 > or raid6 or concat.) > > So is the WG's intent that Automatic/Guided is a recommended path that should > simply work for all uses cases, implying the user doesn't really need to be > bothered with making such obscure choices? Should Manual/Custom partitioning > be removed, de-emphasized (maybe relocated to its own spoke from the hub), > or remain essentially as-is in which case the minimalist intent applies > specifically to the default Automatic/Guided path? > > > > Chris Murphy > > > > [1] What they get depends on the partition scheme chosen, but none of them > cause either raid0 or raid1 to be created. Instead, the LVM and Btrfs > options use linear/concat, and the Standard Partition scheme puts /home on > one drive and everything else on the other. There's no indication to the > user how the selected storage will be used. > > [2] Perhaps most users choosing multiple devices in this path think raid1 is > being configured? We're already making an assumption now that's probably > less correct than assuming either raid1 or raid0, so it's not any more or > less correct to change the assumption to something else. > -- > desktop mailing list > desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop
