On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 03:33:23PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2014-02-10 at 21:26 +0100, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 12:29:25PM +0100, Lukáš Tinkl wrote: > > > Dne 10.2.2014 12:09, Richard Hughes napsal(a): > > > >On 10 February 2014 10:02, Colin Walters <walters@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >>I find the idea that the long and historic relationship between GNOME and > > > >>Fedora could turn around so quickly like that to be very strange > > > > > > > >The fact we're even considering asking the question "which DE do we > > > >want to use for workstation" is just crazy. I think we're kidding > > > >ourselves if we want to try and answer that question honestly when the > > > >biggest backer of the project by several orders of magnitude has > > > >several hundred engineers working full time on GNOME and lower parts > > > > > > I think you've made a typo here (hundreds???) > > > > This is not a typo. If you consider not just GNOME but the lower > > parts of the stack on which GNOME relies (as Colin wrote), it is > > actually hundreds. Of course, some of those lower parts of the stack > > are likely shared by many DEs, in varying amounts, but it's still > > accurate. > > It's clearly *not* accurate, though, to use the 'desktop plus underlying > stack' number for GNOME, but only the 'desktop' number for the other > desktops. That's obviously an unviable comparison. > > It's either say, what, about a dozen(?) vs. two or three if you just > consider those working actually on the desktop, or "a dozen" plus > "hundreds" vs. "two or three" plus "hundreds". You can't get away with > comparing "a dozen" plus "hundreds" against "two or three", as Richard's > mail did: > > "the biggest backer of the project by several orders of magnitude has > several hundred engineers working full time on GNOME and lower parts > of the stack that GNOME uses. If I remember correctly, we have about > two employees on all of KDE, and one on XFCE. None on LXDE. None on > MATE." Right, I think that comparison may not be totally fair. On top of those technologies, having dozens of people who work on GNOME is a compelling enough argument IMHO. I should have spoken less to the semantics, thanks. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop