On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Alexander GS <alxgrtnstrngl@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, 2014-02-05 at 12:08 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: >> The GNOME we're trying to build has its own vision, and it's trying to >> become its own well-defined product: The number-one free software >> operating system. > > Not it's not. This means that they have a single dedicated desktop > experience and that the community is allowed to use those components but > there isn't a formal mechanism to standardize to a common core. It also > excludes any potential requirements for a separate desktop environment > for commercial vendors. If you actually read my Proposal you would > realize that. > > I have worked out a compromise that works for GNOME 3, GNOME 2 and the > Gnome community projects. It's called the GNOME Meta-Desktop. > > PROPOSAL > > ----------------------- > > GNOME Meta-Desktop > > Problem > > For some time now, Linux has been evolving beyond the idea of the > "single" desktop platform. This is not Windows where each platform is > bolted down to a single desktop interface design. Unfortunately projects > like GNOME have been slow to adapt. GNOME's focus on a single dedicated > desktop interface design has caused the Linux desktop space to fragment > causing divisions and frictions between the various communities. This > has also deprived commercial Linux platforms the ability to shape > desktops that fit strict requirements demanded by their target markets. > > Currently and unofficially GNOME is evolving into a meta-desktop with > GNOME Shell, Cinnamon and MATE the resultant outputs of this evolution. > This brings along with it several problems such as fragmentation and > redundancies. The GNOME meta-desktop needs to be standardized, needs > community collaboration and needs GNOME in-house desktop products to > drive it forward. > > https://wiki.gnome.org/AlexGS/GnomeMetaDesktop > > ------------------------ > > Pursuant to this proposal being accepted and implemented the following > will occur: > > - The Fedora Workstation product will feature GNOME 3 as it's official > default and GNOME 2 will always be bundled with GNOME 3 on Workstation > installations and on install images. Installations and install disks > that do not contain both GNOME 3 and GNOME 2 cannot be considered Fedora > Workstation. This requirement remains indefinitely. > > - GNOME 2 will be the default for RHEL and CentOS. Users will have the > option of installing GNOME 3 as well. They will have to add special > repositories to do this. > > - Community desktops based on GNOME re-spins like MATE or forks like > Cinnamon in addition to non-GNOME desktops like KDE and will be > "supported" desktops but NOT included by default on Fedora Workstation > installation. You're saying to include Gnome 2 instead of MATE? That is definitely NOT going to work. Gnome 2 is obsoleted. It has no support for systemd/logind, newer versions of upower, etc. etc. and nobody is going to spend the time to code it. It just wouldn't work. MATE on the other hand does. I do like the proposal in general, it was along the lines of the "choose your own adventure" approach I was proposing, but exactly how would you plan on getting it accepted? Dan -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop
