----- Original Message ----- > On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 11:04:42AM +0000, Richard Hughes wrote: > > > Are we? We don't even have a schedule. > > Sorry, I was under the impression we were shipping GNOME 3.12 in > > Fedora 21 and following the pattern. If that's not the case, > > apologies. > > We've promised QA and Rel Eng that August is earliest. I don't know if that > means we'll skip a Gnome release entirely or what. Post F21, getting back to > better alignment with the Gnome schedule seems useful. We had been kind of > drifting away from that anyway. Btw. any input on scheduling from WGs appreciated - we need to know how much time is needed but for F21, it's going to be compromise based on WGs and other teams needs. GNOME schedule was always part of initial schedule but not the only part - especially with the way how we try to plan releases some flexibility is needed. > In the future, this might mean that cloud/server/workstation end up on > different schedules, but that's going to take a lot of coordinated planning. Yes, with products, Fedora at itself is not GNOME only thing and this could let WGs to adjust schedules. But it's not only about coordination but also tooling and automation to allow multiple release out of sync. It's pain to release two pretty much well-defined releases now. Could you please draft the schedule overlap with GNOME release for F21, as an initial point we can take a look? I can't promise anything but... Jaroslav > > -- > Matthew Miller -- Fedora Project -- <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > -- > desktop mailing list > desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop