On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Christian Schaller <cschalle@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Josh Boyer" <jwboyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: "Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop" <desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 1:30:52 PM >> Subject: Re: Fedora board vote and way forward >> >> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 6:04 AM, Richard Hughes <hughsient@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > On 24 January 2014 10:58, drago01 <drago01@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> Are we? We don't even have a schedule. >> > >> > Sorry, I was under the impression we were shipping GNOME 3.12 in >> > Fedora 21 and following the pattern. If that's not the case, >> > apologies. >> >> For lack of any other plan, that might as well be the target at the >> moment. The only thing we know about schedule is that F21 will not >> ship before August. >> >> >> Anyway as I understand the board any such tool should not be >> >> specifically designed to find non free software but be more generic >> >> "find software we do not ship". >> > >> > I don't understand that at all. Shouldn't a software center be >> > designed to install software, no matter what the origin? If we're >> >> Yes. Which is what the Board is saying. It's saying you cannot know >> where to look for, or display by default, non-free software. So no >> links or .repo files to e.g. flash-plugin. It's also saying that if a >> user explicitly searches for something, then it's possible to have the >> installer make it easier for them to get after they've made an >> informed choice. Call that informed choice a "3rd party warning >> splash screen" or something. > > Well we have never done that before so I don't see any point in starting now. > Educating users as part of an integrated install is one thing, but starting to > pop up educational messages when people download software through the browser is getting > beyond crazy. I was thinking software-center, not browser, but as you've pointed out the difference between them in this specific instance is rather small. > The way I see it is that once we have 'outsourced' access to 3rd party software to said > 3rd parties and their websites it is no longer our business what messaging comes along > with that software. It is not like we display warning messages today when you do 'yum update' > from 3rd party repostories. True. And looking over the second item passed by the Board about reducing technical barriers, I see that the "informed" part was removed. I had forgotten that, so my apologies. It was a long meeting. josh -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop