> On Tue, 2014-01-14 at 14:41 +0000, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > This version still contains an explicit statement that the target > > audience is made up of developers. I've explained why I think this is > > damaging, and Christian obviously disagrees with me. However, I'm > > disappointed to see very little feedback from any other members of the > > working group. I understand what you're saying, but the product is called Workstation not Desktop. :) The first paragraph of the Mission Statement does mention "user-friendly" twice and ends with "system that can appeal to a wide general audience". I think changing "Other users" to say "Case 5: General Technical User" (or Hobbyist Developer) would help to make it a little more balanced: eg someone who builds/makes/admins but doesn't consider herself an application developer. I don't think we can assume RHEL Workstation and Fedora Workstation to have the exact same target audience. Owen makes some good points though below I think: focus is important. > Of course, if "for developers" is read as "can have wires sticking out > all over the place", then we're in trouble. But to me, having polish and > coherency and quality is something that proceeds and is a prerequisite > for any sort of target audience. Targeting developers doesn't mean > giving up on the basic design principles we have: > > * The user has better things to do with their time than fiddle with > the operating system. > * Configuration options have cost. > * Understand the real problem that the user is having, don't > stop at their feature request. > Server side application development is really the primary target, though > other types of application development - embedded, hobby, etc. are > within scope. > > (It might be clearer if the PRD separated developers by what they were > doing rather than concentrating on their employment status.) True, User Stories might work better than User cases. Otherwise I feel the Hobbyist case is worth an explicit mention. Conversely I feel Matthew's draft might be too soft on developer focus. > a soft focus in that direction seems to me to be > a productive way to guide the initial development of the product. Agreed. But it seems some people are reading it as too hard focused though. Overall I think the PRD is well written and I can live with it in its current form. I do wish we had a draft already on the wiki though to allow WG members to make small tweaks and changes more easily, etc. Jens -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop
