Re: Power saving by default in Fedora Desktop

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On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Elad Alfassa <elad@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Lennart Poettering <mzerqung@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 06.11.13 16:01, Bill Nottingham (notting@xxxxxxxxxx) wrote:
>>
>> > Elad Alfassa (elad@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) said:
>> > > It'd be awesome if we could make sure default Fedora Workstation will
>> > > have
>> > > "laptop mode" on by default.
>> > > Right now I need to run a script that changes many power tunables (got
>> > > the
>> > > list from powertop) to save battery on my laptop. It should be
>> > > default.
>> > > Perhaps detect if the machine is on-battery and if so enable all power
>> > > saving features (disable watchdog, increase the
>> > > vm_dirty_writeback_centisecs value, and so on)?
>> > > Can this be part of upower? Can we have a setting in Settings for
>> > > that?
>> > > (Something like "Enable power saving when on battery (decreases
>> > > performance)"?
>> >
>> > Isn't this the sort of thing that should ship by default? (Whether in a
>> > tuned profile or something else.)
>>
>> The last time I discussed this with Matthew Garrett we came to the
>> conclusion that this isn't something we want for the general case. Best
>> is to ping him about this.
>>
>> I am pretty sure that "tuned" is nothing we ever want to ship by
>> default. To "tune" something is the opposite of having good defaults. We
>> want good defaults, no tuning.
>>
>> Lennart
>>
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>
> What about automatically changing the cpu-governor to powersave when battery
> is under certain % and the device is unplugged, and then bringing it back to
> ondemand when plugging the machine back in?

If "powersave" means "stick at low clocks" that actually eats *more*
power then ondemand because the cpu will spend less time being idle.
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