On Thu, 2011-02-17 at 10:47 -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Matthias Clasen <mclasen@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 11:21 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > >> Hey, folks. Just a note that I set up a tracker bug for known cases > >> where trying to start GNOME 3 results in something totally unusable - > >> Shell fails and fallback does not work correctly. So far there's a > >> couple of bugs blocking it. The tracker is > >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678116 , it has the alias > >> F15GNOMEfail. Please add any appropriate bugs to it, for convenience. > >> thanks! > > > > Thanks, that is useful. Fallback is under active development atm. > > I think we need to distinguish between hardware/driver specifc bugs > versus general ones. In fixing the bugs, sure...I think having a single list of all the known instances of 'houston, we have a problem' is helpful though. > Both of the ones on the list look > hardware-specific. Well, I mean, I think just about _all_ bugs of this kind are going to be hardware-specific somehow. The only way that wouldn't be the case is if the fallback mechanism were somehow utterly and completely broken in implementation; once you've written a fallback mechanism that at least theoretically does what it's supposed to do, all bugs are 'corner cases', yes? > Fixing these kinds of things will involve at a > minimum a lot of back and forth with the reporter, running tools, > looking at output, etc. We may be able to do some of this for F15, > but barring some major jump in manpower, it's unlikely we can do *all* > of them. Sure; I'm not assuming we will. I just want to have a single place where we can quickly go to get an overview of such bugs. > I think we're going to need to have an always-fallback hardware > blacklist somewhere. Where exactly that lives and how it works is up > for debate. I'd strawman that we make a new module/RPM > "gnome-shell-blacklist" and insert it in the startup path, but better > ideas are welcome. That's up to you folks :) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop
