On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 8:36 PM, <herrmann@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > How would you define a "proprietary web service"? > > Is google such a service ? The only open protocol used by connecting any app to any of their servers is http, xmpp etc. Everything behind is closed. So we remove firefox ? Exactly. We've been down this road. Anything which can view arbitrary content can be used to interact with proprietary services. Do we not ship the Exchange support for Evolution? Do we not include f-spot (I realize it's not in the default spin) because it's able to export to Flickr (Shotwell can too, BTW)? Where does it stop? I think that based upon our (upcoming) vision statement, all of these things fit. People are in control of the content with all of these programs, and have to make a conscious choice to use the external service. . Eliminating choices of what to do with that content in fact explicitly goes against that vision, since the user is no longer in control. When you think longer term, about what's good for Fedora, it becomes clear that restricting users to interact solely with free services does not further our goal of attracting more users to the platform, therefore increasing the pool of potential contributors. I *do* think that for applications which support a mixture of free and non-free services, the free services should be presented as defaults. -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop