This is definitely scope creeping the discussion here, but I'm coming round to the viewpoint that Fedora shoudn't ship any application in the default install whose primary purpose is to connect to proprietary web services, or at least not ones configured by default to do so. (All apps are of course free to be in the repositories). This would dovetail nicely with making it not suck to install applications. -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop