On Fri, 2010-10-01 at 13:03 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2010-10-01 at 15:50 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > On Fri, 2010-10-01 at 14:52 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > > > This is definitely scope creeping the discussion here, but I'm coming > > > round to the viewpoint that Fedora shoudn't ship any application in > > > the default install whose primary purpose is to connect to proprietary > > > web services, or at least not ones configured by default to do so. > > > (All apps are of course free to be in the repositories). > > > > > > This would dovetail nicely with making it not suck to install applications. > > > > I don't think this is a useful direction to take the F14/pino problem > > into. If we stop installing applications that are useful for users, then > > the users will go somewhere else. > > This is the same argument you can make with proprietary hardware > drivers. Ultimately we've always agreed with the FSF position that > encouraging the use of proprietary software just makes it less likely > that free software will be written, so we shouldn't do it. > > The situation here is exactly analogous. If we choose to, say, ship a > client configured to connect to identi.ca by default instead, we're > putting our weight behind freedom in a very important area, just as > important as hardware support. > > I'd say we shouldn't adopt contradictory policies here. I concur. -sv -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop