On Fri, 20.08.10 03:52, Lennart Poettering (mzerqung@xxxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > systemd is very generic low-level code, so there shouldn't be a > technical barrier for other DEs adopting it too, and I'd welcome this > very much. However, there are certain political issues that will make > adoption by other DEs difficult: for one, systemd is Linux > specific. While in the GNOME world the idea that Linux is the only OS > that matters is kinda popular these days I assume that other > DEs care much more about niche OSes (hey, and KDE even cares about > Windows!). > > Also, regardless of the DE there is still that distro with the 3 Us in > its name which is unlikely to adopt systemd. Tying systemd into GNOME > and the other DEs would probably cement what they are already doing: > forking GNOME and maintaining things independently of upstream. > > So, in summary, this is something to push forward very carefully, and as > of now neither the technical nor the political preconditions have been > figured out how to do this best. Let me clarify this: if we adopt systemd for the session we need to do that in a way that is acceptable for the other OSes/distros which cannot or don't want to adopt systemd. We don't want to drive them away from contributing to GNOME upstream. It's a tightrope walk between innovating here and not breaking too much glass in the cooperation between th major players in GNOME land. I do have a few ideas how to do this best, but this needs more thinking. i.e. in the long run we probably want to merge a lot of the CK functionality into systemd, and move some stuff currently done in gnome-session into it. We should do this in a way that Solaris and Ubuntu can still continue to use the current CK implementation and the current code in g-s, and both can still be considered GNOME. But anyway, I don't like to talk too much about great plans for the distant future, and focus more on what we can do right now. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc. -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop
