On Thu, 19.08.10 22:32, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" (johannbg@xxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > On 08/19/2010 10:05 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > In the long run I want to make gnome use systemd for session management, > > so that the same parallelization techniques we use for system boot can > > be used for session startup as well. > > Are other *DE ( KDE XFCE LXDE Sugar etc ) being kept in the loop so they > can take advantage of the parallelization techniques ? Well, I consider myself a GNOME developer, and that's my focus. systemd is very generic low-level code, so there shouldn't be a technical barrier for other DEs adopting it too, and I'd welcome this very much. However, there are certain political issues that will make adoption by other DEs difficult: for one, systemd is Linux specific. While in the GNOME world the idea that Linux is the only OS that matters is kinda popular these days I assume that other DEs care much more about niche OSes (hey, and KDE even cares about Windows!). Also, regardless of the DE there is still that distro with the 3 Us in its name which is unlikely to adopt systemd. Tying systemd into GNOME and the other DEs would probably cement what they are already doing: forking GNOME and maintaining things independently of upstream. So, in summary, this is something to push forward very carefully, and as of now neither the technical nor the political preconditions have been figured out how to do this best. > What are the plans regarding plymouth since the boot will be so fast? > ( Feels kinda pointless having any kind of animation during startup ) Well, if people plug more stuff into their boot, run all kinds of inet servers, and other stuff, or have slower hw/rotating media, or have a crypto fs plymouth will very much be needed. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc. -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop