On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 02:52:15PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 05.05.10 10:22, Yaakov Nemoy (loupgaroublond@xxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > > > > 2010/5/4 Lennart Poettering <mzerqung@xxxxxxxxxxx>: > > > BTW: another reason to enable sudo by default is to unify things a > > > little across distributions: to my knowledge Ubuntu (and related > > > distros) set up sudo like that. It would be nice if folks coming from > > > their would have an easy path to administrating Fedora systems. > > > > I disagree with this logic. It's too much like the 'if your friends > > all jumped off the brooklyn bridge, would you do it too?' logic > > parents use to convince kids not to do drugs. > > Well, it might come as a surprise to some, but actually Ubuntu is not > just a bunch of imbiciles, and it kinda annoys me that whenever > something comes from or is done in Ubuntu, people saya: "well, if Ubuntu > does it, then it is questionnable because they don't know what they do > and their distro is only used by noobs". > > Well, that's simply bullshit. I think Yaakov said in the paragraph right after the snip above that he was simply not 100% convinced the implementation Ubuntu chose is correct, not that they were imbeciles. Yes, analogies are generally bad. > It is a good idea, and taking inspiration from their work and working > towards minimizing the differences between the distros even if that > means we make a step in their direction, is nothing like jumping from a > bridge, taking drugs, or convincing your kids about that. A lot of people want or expect some way to promote themselves easily, whether that's sudo or something else. If we end up taking a cue from another distro, there's no shame in that, nor in considering other ways to do this elegantly. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop