On Thu, 2010-04-29 at 10:58 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: > On Wed, 2010-04-28 at 23:16 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > Jeremy Perry (jeremy.perry@xxxxxxxxxx) said: > > > Here is a quick rundown. > > > > > > Things I know or are my opinions as a designer: > > > - Deja Vu Sans is a very vide font, and in many cases causes "ugly" ui because of the amount of space it consumes. Screen space is at a premium and this font makes the issue worse by being one of the widest out there. This is a big pain point in places like dialogs and skinny window titles. > > > - Deja Vu Sans is known to be tricky to render on screen - some letters just have awkward spacing and widths no matter what you do (bowls on d's seem compressed, etc). I blogged about this as it relates to Fedora: http://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/jperry/2009/10/30/when-rendering-text-on-screen-every-pixel-counts/ > > > - it looks old - compare it to any other modern UI. > > > - The bold is really quite bad and amplifies the issues above. > > > > > > Things I dont know as fact but suspect about Deja Vu Sans > > > - Wasn't designed for UI use specifically. UI fonts are not made for documents, or vice versa. > > > - Hasn't been as rigorously crafted and tweaked by fontographers for best fitting and spacing > > > > OK. I did some quick comparisons which can be seen at: > > > > http://notting.fedorapeople.org/font-tests/ > > > > if people are interested. > > Disclaimer: I only looked at the English images. > > Droid is certainly thinner, which is probably worthwhile, but I'm not > sure it's uniformly better. The left vertical stroke in H in "Hardware" > looks like a hinting failure. That's sort of a general observation > though, vertical strokes don't look like they have consistent thickness, http://notting.fedorapeople.org/font-tests/droid-en.png Vertical strokes look really bad on u/n/h/m. Look at Sound, Authentication, or Mouse; the tall vertical stroke on the left of the 'h' is 2x as wide as the short vertical stroke on the right. It looks really tacky. Like a badly scaled down image. Dan -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop