On Wed, 2010-04-28 at 23:16 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Jeremy Perry (jeremy.perry@xxxxxxxxxx) said: > > Here is a quick rundown. > > > > Things I know or are my opinions as a designer: > > - Deja Vu Sans is a very vide font, and in many cases causes "ugly" ui because of the amount of space it consumes. Screen space is at a premium and this font makes the issue worse by being one of the widest out there. This is a big pain point in places like dialogs and skinny window titles. > > - Deja Vu Sans is known to be tricky to render on screen - some letters just have awkward spacing and widths no matter what you do (bowls on d's seem compressed, etc). I blogged about this as it relates to Fedora: http://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/jperry/2009/10/30/when-rendering-text-on-screen-every-pixel-counts/ > > - it looks old - compare it to any other modern UI. > > - The bold is really quite bad and amplifies the issues above. > > > > Things I dont know as fact but suspect about Deja Vu Sans > > - Wasn't designed for UI use specifically. UI fonts are not made for documents, or vice versa. > > - Hasn't been as rigorously crafted and tweaked by fontographers for best fitting and spacing > > OK. I did some quick comparisons which can be seen at: > > http://notting.fedorapeople.org/font-tests/ > > if people are interested. Disclaimer: I only looked at the English images. Droid is certainly thinner, which is probably worthwhile, but I'm not sure it's uniformly better. The left vertical stroke in H in "Hardware" looks like a hinting failure. That's sort of a general observation though, vertical strokes don't look like they have consistent thickness, and not for any apparent reason. Compare "Preferred". Might be something hinting settings would help? But man do I wish we'd pick a setting for that and stick with it. The I in "Internet" and "VoIP" is really jarring; I appreciate that it's capped to distinguish it from 'l', but I feel like either the caps should be smaller or the right kerning should be looser. On the plus side, I really like the /, and the 'wo' kerning is better. - ajax
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