On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 13:09 -0800, John Poelstra wrote: > On 11/25/2009 05:58 AM, Mike Chambers wrote: > > On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 19:44 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: > >> On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 15:57 -0800, John Poelstra wrote: > >>> > >>> The basic structure of Fedora 13 schedule has been set and will soon go > >>> to FESCo for final approval. Once that happens I will build proposed > >>> schedules for: Documentation, Translation, Design, Marketing, and Websites. > >>> > >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/13/Schedule > >>> http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-13/f-13-releng-tasks.html > >>> > >>> If you have constructive feedback for altering or enhancing the > >>> schedule, now is the time to give it. If it would be helpful to create > >>> a public Desktop specific schedule I'd be glad to help with that as well. > >> > >> I don't think I have much constructive feedback, other than that the > >> development phase seems very short, with holidays and whatnot. > > > > I was just looking at that as well, and have came up with 5 months of > > development/testing (including from date F12 was released) for the > > cycle? Just curious, isn't that kind of short? And as stated above, > > not even realy 5 months, since all the major holidays are included in > > this cycle. > > > > Fedora does not usually factor in holidays. I've attempted to include > them in previous schedule drafts, but they were dismissed by others as > not being relevant to Fedora since we don't have official work days, > office hours, etc.. Granted if a serious freeze or release date > occurred during a major holiday period I'm sure they would reconsider, > but our release dates are such that they don't. I've seen plenty of earlier discussion where rel-eng was carefully trying to triangulate the release date around thanksgiving or easter. It seems somewhat unfair to say that rel-eng get to take holidays, but developers are expected to work straight through... :-) > The flip side of this is Jesse's mention in another post about the > branch for Fedora 13 being open before the end of Fedora 12 and the thus > development being longer than five months. I'm not sure how this works > out in reality for development--if they can really take advantage of the > early opening of the next release or if 95% of their energy remains > focused on the release at hand. If we want to get away from the 'just a feature dump' and 'just a beta' monikers, we'll have to face the fact that it does not work out in practise, at some point. -- Fedora-desktop-list mailing list Fedora-desktop-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list