On 10/21/2009 02:37 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 14:30 -0400, William Jon McCann wrote: >> >> If I'm a consumer and I see "Live Image" with no other context - I say >> as opposed to... "dead?" And of course, we know that isn't the case. >> It is, actually, as opposed to the "older technology that just runs an >> installer but not in the familiar desktop environment but may be >> better for servers but we don't know exactly why and no one looks at >> anymore and oh yeah it does upgrades" CD/DVD. Oh yeah - silly me. >> > > Selectable filesystems, selectable packages, updates at install time, > install over the network, upgrades, yeah that image. So here's a list of installer requirements I've extrapolated from some of the discussion here and from some past experience I've had with the installer: - I need to be able to pick what file system the computer will use. - I need to be able to indicate whether or not the file system will be encrypted. - I need to be able to indicate some file systems be encrypted and others not. - I need to be able to install the latest software available even if that involves installing software that isn't on the install media but available online. - I need to be able to install without an internet connection, or at least without taking up too much bandwidth. - I need to install over the network. - I would prefer to install using a familiar desktop environment. - I need to install to advanced storage devices, including networked storage devices. - I need to install Fedora on a dual- or triple-boot machine. That may involve Windows, or other Linuxes. - I need to be able to install to a virtual host (the machine in front of me.) - I need to be able to install to a virtual host (a machine in my data center over there) - I need to be able to install in an unattended and reproducible manner. - I need to be able to install to one machine today. - I need to be able to install 500 machines in a number of days. - I need to be able to install 50 machines daily. (eg computer lab) - I don't know much about hard drive partitioning and I'd prefer to be able to install without digging into that. - I need to be able to set up a very specific partitioning layout. - I need to be able to set up a specific LVM configuration during install. - I need to be able to set up RAID on my install. - I need my system to use a static IP. - I don't speak English, and I need to install. - I don't have a us_en keyboard and I need to install. - I don't need to create a non-root user. - I don't know much about security and would prefer my computer to be set up to be as secure as possible out-of-the-box (non root user?) - I need to be able to configure a custom bootloader. - I need to set a password on my bootloader. - I need to install packages from a third-party repo during install. - I need to be able to verify my install media. - I need to install to removable media. - I would prefer to upgrade my system in-place so I don't need to set everything up from scratch again. - I'm a visually-impaired user and need to be able to install. - I need to interactively install a machine over the network. These statements are clearly being made by people with different needs / contexts. Can we call out which ones are more general and which ones are more specialized? (Do you think that would be a useful exercise?) ~m -- Fedora-desktop-list mailing list Fedora-desktop-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list
