On 10/21/2009 12:13 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 12:44 +0200, Sven Lankes wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:40:21PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: >> >> >>>> Maybe moving the sig irc channel to the same irc-network that all the >>>> other parts of fedora use (according to the sig page it's currently on >>>> GIMPnet) would help alleviate the alien feeling many fellow fedorians >>>> have when it comes to the Gnome/Desktop-SIG? >>>> >> >>> I find it rather hard to believe that a different irc network is really >>> th reason people aren't joinin the channel. >>> >> I agree - and that is the reason why I didn't state something like that. >> >> But still having a channel on a completely different irc-network does >> send a message - that's all I'm saying. >> > The Desktop SIG uses the network that GNOME's upstream uses. We have > very many people on the channel that are GNOME hackers, and work for > other companies. The current setup suits us pretty well. > > If I recall correctly there was an #fedora-desktop channel with an gateway that nirik setup that posted what ever was posted there to the other channel hence establishing communication channel between irc-networks they asked that gateway to be closed at that time. They might wanna shed some light in the reasoning behind doing so... The root cause is not a technical issue it's lack of communication transparency and openness. If the Gnome desktop SIG truly wants to achieve vibrant community it needs to communicate more, become transparent and more open to feed back suggestion and ideas and thus giving the individuals participating the feeling that they are a part of a *TEAM*..... There is one thing I have noticed is that the Gnome Desktop SIG seems too focused chasing the *new (m$)* end user and making the adjustments to it's DE according their needs and totally ignoring the already established Fedora Gnome Desktop user base.. Just bear that in mind when you make changes.. JBG
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