Nicu Buculei (nicu_fedora@xxxxxxxxxxx) said: >>>> 1. my email >>>> 2. all the news in the world >>>> 3. a system for developing on >>>> 4. the necessary tools for adding new things to my system >>>> 5. all the documentation I could ever want >>>> >>>> that sounds pretty encompassing to me. >>> >>> So the audience of the Desktop Live CD, the one featured prominently on >>> the download page (the first item there) and described as "It's >>> everything you need to try out Fedora" is programmers/system >>> administrators? >> >> Yes, that's why the LiveCD has Eclipse, gcc, and lots of -devel >> packages for programmers, and has wireshark, puppet, cobbler, and >> nmap for system administrators. Wait, what? >> >> I do not see at *all* how you make the leap from "LiveCD does not >> include Gimp" to "LiveCD must be for programmers and administrators." > > The quote is wrongly attributed, Seth made the leap by providing the > list above with "system for developing on", "tools for adding things", > "documentation". Um, no. Context included above. You somehow made the leap from 'tools for adding new things' (i.e. PackageKit) and 'documentation' to 'system administrators'. That's an impressive leap of logic. So, for the new user, what are the most likely things they need to do on images? It's likely: - resize - crop - rotate - frob the color balance/brightness/contrast - (maybe) redeye removal We still include tools for that. You could argue (fairly sucessfully, I think), that gimp is actually an advanced tool for graphics professionals, not a first line tool for new users. Bill -- Fedora-desktop-list mailing list Fedora-desktop-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list
