On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Nils Philippsen <nphilipp@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 12:32 +0100, Martin Sourada wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 10:49 +0100, Nils Philippsen wrote: > > > On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 17:06 +0100, Robi wrote: > > > > So why don't you just put: > > > > "GNU Image Manipulation Program (GIMP)", "Internet messenger (Pidgin)" > > > > etc.... Everybody happy, right? > > > > > > Weeell. This would mean that somebody would have to whip the GNOME panel > > > into shape first so that it actually displays "Generic Name (Name)". > > > Then everybody and their uncle would have to fix desktop files which > > > have generic names as "Name" to work around that deficiency. Kind of a > > > catch-22 if you ask me. Perhaps we should propose that as a feature for > > > F10. > > From a quick look into my menu it seems like now most of the software > > installed in gnome by default use "Name Generic Name" in their desktop > > files (like Epiphany Web Browser), which I think is the best way to do > > that. But I am well aware that other people might think otherwise. > > The bad thing is that this is often done by having "Name=Name > GenericName" and having no GenericName instead of keeping those > separate. We really should get that situation fixed for F10, i.e. so > that the desktop files use Name, GenericName consistently (as per spec) > and the desktop environments (i.e. panels e.a.) use these as per spec. > > > > The problem with GIMP is however that GNU Image Manipulation Program is > > not a generic name but it's full name (GIMP is just an acronym). And > > while the long name is quite suited for standalone usage (i.e. without > > the generic name part displayed) GIMP might be better for the long > > variant, though I am not certainly sure what would its generic name be, > > perhaps "Raster Graphics Editor" (following the example of "Inkscape > > Vector Graphics Editor"). > > I've just talked to upstream about this and they're not too happy about > (ab)using the system with "Name=GIMP" and "GenericName=GNU Image > Manipulation Program". Perhaps the spec should be extended to have an > AbbreviatedName key, so gimp.desktop could have: > > ... > AbbreviatedName=GIMP > Name=GNU Image Manipulation Program > GenericName=Image Manipulation Program > Comment=Manipulate your images > ... > > GenericName could even be left empty as it's a subset of Name. The menus > could then have it (based on if the user prefers short or long names) > like this: > > Name/AbbreviatedName (GenericName) > > or alternatively (if there is not GenericName) > > Name/AbbreviatedName > > and the comment as the tooltip of the menu entry. This would even work > with legacy (Name and GenericName combined into Name) desktop files. > > > > But I agree with Nicu that the most important thing is consistency. It > > indeed would make sense to propose that as a feature for F10, regardless > > which format for display we decide to use... And if such a feature would > > be indeed proposed, I think it should be worked on with upstream as much > > as possible. > > Yes. > > > > Nils Correct me if I'm wrong but they said that GenericName should be "Image Editor" and for the rest of this +1 from me. Cheers, Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic -- Fedora-desktop-list mailing list Fedora-desktop-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list
